The only hope for the Church is a return to the Old Cross,
a full surrender to Christ Jesus ........
We encourage you
(remembering out of the holiness movements came the original Pentecostal Movements of the 20th. century)
- study the perspectives of the revivalists of old - their surrender brought conditions for a return to Christ Jesus - a wholehearted return for this was the Old Cross - not the "new"
Revivalist I. Edwin Orr
Born in Belfast in 1912, Dr. Orr spent his life studying and ministering on the subject of revival & spiritual awakenings before being promoted to glory in 1987.
Orr’s ministry began in his home town in 1930 or1931 with open air meetings later working with Christian Endeavour. A desire to preach and lead people to Christ developed and this led him to move to London where his preaching career extended throughout the U.K. and abroad.
By 1936 his international career was really developing with tours to New Zealand, Australia, South Africa& Rhodesia, a career clearly shown in his publications.
In 1938 Orr formed a Revival Fellowship team, his doctorate dissertation being published in 1949 called The Second Evangelical Awakening in Britain. In the same year he became a resident of Southern California speaking across the World and in 1966 becoming a Professor at Fuller Seminary’s School of World Mission. http://www.jedwinorr.com/bio.htm
Orr in bringing understanding gave principles developed at various revivals throughout the World.
Principles developed at the Fulton Street Revival, New York:
i) Spontaneity: there was a leader but only one that would spot people in the audience with interesting information but the use of the leader was rare as meetings were spontaneous as led by the Holy Ghost.
ii) Harmony amongst the evangelical groupings that gathered with Calvinists & Arminianists avoiding controversial issues with a heart for rescuing perishing souls.
iii) Punctuality: the meetings began on time & ended on time!
iv) Prayer and the singing of salvation hymns. The result of all this is given by Orr with a quote from a contemporary writer: "Christians were very much humbled. .. even impenitent men saw and felt that this was holy ground. They felt that it was awful to trifle with the place of prayer; sacrilegious to doubt the spirit, the sincerity, the efficiency, or the power of prayer. It began to be felt that Christians obtained answers to prayer. . . that if they united to pray for any particular man's conversion, that man was sure to be converted. . . because he had become the subject of prayer." http://www.jedwinorr.com/typical.htm
Principles developed in New Zealand.
i) Keith Rimmer reported that many had been praying for revival.
God showing his willingness to bless “where there has been a willingness to confess and forsake the things that hinder Divine Power."
ii) The term “soundly saved” was used a Mrs Graham saying to Edwin Orr:
"Oh, Brother Orr, I am delighted to see you. Do you know? Four girls of mine were soundly saved at that Wednesday evening meeting."
iii) Confessing faults one to another and a recognition that revival begins in one’s own heart.: Orr’s report -
After the evening meeting, a young man who had been in the revival in Rimmer's tent approached me.
"Mr. Orr," said he. "About a dozen fellows want you to come along to Tent Number Twenty-nine. They are concerned about revival."
I went. We discussed the hindrances to revival with frank earnestness. There seemed to be conviction, deep conviction.
"Now, you fellows," I said. "Do you really believe that God is going to give us revival?"
There was a chorus of " Amen." "Yes, but do you believe that He will start the revival here in this tent to-night?"
After a silence, one young man said quietly:
"If we pay the price."
"All right," said I. "Let's get to prayer and see if God keeps His word. We'll pray for a revival here."
Some of them began to kneel.
“I say," cried one young man. "Don't - before we pray to God for revival, I want to get something off my mind."
A silence of amazement greeted his declaration. Then he turned to another fellow in the tent:
"Jack, I want to confess openly that I have been criticising you behind your back."
We were taken aback.
"Will you forgive me? I think I ought to get right with you first."
After a painful silence, the other fellow said it "That's all right. It's my fault, too. I have been doing the same thing behind your back. May God forgive us both."
When we started praying, transactions were gone through with the Lord. The first prayer was a broken confession of secret sin: another sought cleansing from pride: another confessed criticism: another unbelief. Young men are honest in their prayers - and these were not kept back by the presence of women.
"O God, O God," cried one, "deliver me from the bondage of the flesh."
"Lord, help me. Take out of my life the lust of the eyes."
I think that everyone of the twelve young men got right with God. Then the spirit of revival began to fall upon us - it was an amazing meeting. We sang, we prayed, we rejoiced, we cried unto God. At ten-fifteen, I said to them:
“Now look here. I am going off to my hotel to go to sleep. But take a tip from me-go and try to get some of the other tents on fire for the Lord. It is your work just as much as mine. . We asked God for a revival here - we have got it. The same thing will apply to the other tents."
They divided up into parties of three and started out. I went to my hotel. I felt the urge to tell Dr. Rolls of the revival, but did not want to disturb him. However, I could not sleep, so I left in my coat, got an apple, told the hotelkeeper that I would go for ten minutes' walk, and set out for the camp. To my amazement (for lights out was at ten-thirty) there were prayer meetings going on in a dozen tents. I listened. In some tents, revival had begun: in others they were asking for blessing. I met some of the boys from'29.'
"How did you get on, eh?"
“We were received very coldly in the first tent we went to as a matter of fact they said we must be crazy and they put us out. But the other fellows are being well received."
"What are you going to do now?" I asked.
There was a late prayer meeting of a score of fellows going on in the big marquee, and the two boys from '29' announced their intention of " butting in." I left them and walked back to the hotel, rejoicing at their boldness. They went down to the marquee, and found a very ordinary sort of prayer meeting about to be closed. Now one of these two young men was an over-exuberant fellow in temperament: the other was a quiet type. The quiet fellow went to the front of the prayer meeting and boldly interrupted the prayers, much to the astonishment of the score of men.
“Listen here, you fellows. What’s the use of praying for other fellows’ sins. You ought to confess your own, and get a revival in your own heart first.”
iv) Conviction of the Holy Spirit
And so they told an astonished company of how the revival had descended upon Tent 29. In the twinkling of an eye, there was conviction as the Holy Spirit descended upon that prayer meeting. Men were broken down, confessed sin, cried for mercy, sought forgiveness, asked for revival. And the prayer meeting in the big marquee went ablaze with spiritual power.
v) Peace made with the Lord. Orr’s report:
“You fellows are happy: I am not. Will you pray for me? I am a big hypocrite, that's all I thought I was something, but just now the Lord has shown me that I am steeped in sin. Oh, pray for me."
He sat down and buried his face in his arms, and we could see his shoulders moving with broken sobs. Some got up and ! prayed for him. Then we sang:
Would you be free from your burden of sin?
There's power in the Blood."
By one o'clock there were no fewer than sixty men in that revival meeting- everyone of whom had made his peace with his Lord. Other enemies were reconciled, other sins were confessed, other souls received the transforming power. At one o'clock, I managed to persuade them to go to bed. They protested - I insisted, I backed by a few others. Finally we stood up to sing:
"Hallelujah to the Lamb
Who died on Mount Calvary,
Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Hallelujah, Amen."
The benediction was pronounced. It was ignored so far as going to bed was concerned. The praise service started all over again. At last we prevailed on them to go to bed. The last hymn was, "Blest be the tie that binds." The “sixty '' - as they were afterwards called, were one in heart. My only concern was the fact that they had made the noise of six hundred - and that in the middle of the night. But revival had come-we were all convinced of that.”
vi) Disturbed from sleep. Orr’s report:
“Next morning, there was a buzz of conversation throughout the camps. It appears that people were awakened by the singing within a radius of half a mile. The girls' camp was awakened: sleepers were awakened up across the river. Comment was made everywhere. Most of the people were satisfied with the explanation that revival had begun in the men's camp: but there were mutterings from a minority. Bitter comments were made.
Said one man(indirectly) to me:
"Do you think that it was the work of the Holy Spirit to disturb people out of their sleep?"
"I believe it was the work of the Spirit to disturb people out their sleep. Wait and see for yourself," I re-joined.
After considering the matter prayerfully, I asked permission of the chairman to make a statement publicly. He gave me five minutes. So I explained matters, and said that the sixty young men hoped that no one was unduly hurt.
"I have heard unkind criticism," I concluded. "So let me say this. The majority of these men were leading backsliding lives in bondage to sin for years. Now they have got victory. Do you blame them for praising the Lord far into the night? Why, I wish that you all had been there."
I asked the men concerned to endorse all that I said by standing up. "The Sixty" stood up like one man.
"Did you experience revival last night?"
"Amen." It was emphatic.
“Show these people how you feel about it."
Spontaneously, they burst into a hymn of praise which shook the place. There was no more criticism, for all were deeply impressed. As I sat down, I remarked:
"We have come to Ngaruawahia for revival. Revival has begun. Take heed that you do not hinder the work of the Spirit. Mark my words, you may see revival sweep the camp to-night."
That Saturday was the day of the picnic. I had a chance of making contacts with folks of all classes that afternoon, and truly the expectancy in all hearts was unbounded. Itappears that revival broke out independently in a house-party on Saturday morning. All these signs greatly encouraged us.”
vii) Hush of conviction on revival meeting.
“Saturday evening's service was utterly overcrowded. There were 1,000 people crammed into the tent, and dozens of others all round the place. Dr. Rolls gave me a nod as I started to speak.
"I'm praying for you." I preached for a full hour. The hush of conviction was upon the place-the very same atmosphere that pervaded Merril MacPherson's church before the revival broke out there in Philadelphia. The great problem was how to handle such a great meeting when the break came.
When the appeal was made, a score of young people walked forward to the front and confessed besetting sin. Many were in tears as they knelt there. People began to breakdown all over the meeting-and yet that meeting was singularly orderly. Mr. Sanders and Dr. Rolls made their way over to the men's dining tent, and to them I sent score after score of young folk seeking blessing. Before very long there were two hundred being dealt with. Other leaders went out and dealt with different groups-there were seventeen after-meetings scattered all over the camp. Rev. A. S. Wilson calculated that over five hundred were dealt with: scores of backsliders were restored: there were dozens of conversions. About three hundred older people waited with me in the big marquee-and revival swept them likewise. Pastors and workers confessed backsliding; tears flowed; decisions for Christ were made by the unconverted. Two Chinamen, who could not speak English, were in the meeting under conviction of sin. They were dealt with through an interpreter and decided for Christ. All told, a score of these converts were received at the Lord's Table on the morrow, and there were others who could not attend.
These after-meetings began at nine-thirty. There was plenty of opportunity for people to slip away. But all were of one mind. About ten-thirty the people in the big marquee began to sing the praises of the Lamb. This was a signal for all around to come back to the main meeting. At ten-thirty, one thousand people were in the tent again-surely the greatest proof of all. That praise service of one thousand happy people continued with- out break until eleven-thirty when the leaders persuaded them to go off to bed. This they were very loath to do, but we insisted.”
viii) Full Surrender Missions Call: Orr's Report
"At the missionary meeting . . . an appeal was made for those who were willing to yield their lives in full surrender to Christ for His service, whether at home or abroad. Hundreds of young folk rose. . . indications are that the £2,000 mark (in missionary subscriptions) will be passed this year.
"Mr. W. J. Mains gave a most searching address in the evening when many more found Christ. At 9.30 the meeting was changed into one for Christians. Very few left the tent which was still practically full at 11 p.m. After singing and prayer, brief testimonies as to how they had entered into the blessing of the Spirit- filled life were given by Dr. Rolls, Mr. Allan and the writer (Mr. Sanders). This met the difficulties in the minds of many who by faith appropriated that same fullness. Rev. A. S. Wilson led in prayer for those who responded. Dr. A. B. Simpson's beautiful hymn expressed the attitude of those present, and was sung with great meaning:
I take the promised Holy Ghost,
I take the power of Pentecost,
To fill me to the uttermost:
I take, He undertakes
Monday morning brought another day of continued revival. It was the closing day of the convention-and yet the feeling was at white-heat. We had a happy time both morning, after- noon and evening.”
ix) No great wave of emotionalism – but a contagious holy joy!
To quote The Reaper (Newspaper)once more:
"But perhaps the outstanding meeting of the whole camp was the testimony meeting which commenced about 6:30 p.m. (although many had gathered before that). When it was announced that all who desired to testify must come up to the platform and speak through the amplifier, it was thought that few would face the ordeal. From the very first moment, however, the platform was crowded -and sometimes the aisle too-with those eager to tell of blessing received. As it neared ten p.m. and the meeting had been going on for nearly four hours, the writer endeavoured to close down; but the young folks jumped from their seats and literally ran down the aisle lest they should miss their opportunity. After another hour of testimony, unbroken except for choruses, another attempt to close the meeting was made. (It failed.) Once again midnight was drawing near when the meeting concluded with singing such as one expects to hear in heaven. The testimonies given were clear, definite and sincere. One was struck with the confidence with which naturally shy and timid souls gave testimony. They spoke in a power obviously not their own.
"There were many remarkable features about the gathering. There was a great spontaneity and freedom, and yet no extravagance. In spite of consistently late nights and long meetings, campers did not seem unduly tired. One young hopeful even suggested that we have longer meetings. While there was no great wave of emotionalism, a subdued yet contagious holy joy was in the air. It did not seem unnatural for old men and matrons to yield to the exhortation of Psalm 47:1 and clap their hands for very joy. Our hearts are filled with rejoicing-and the end is not yet."
Orr’s Extreme Emphasis on Repentance.
In 1937 Orr published a book saying that “The Church must first repent”.
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
Orr relates this as having been used by the Lord in his messages to the seven churches in Revelation.
The warning of Church becoming a social club is clear in Orr’s writings pointing out that revival is not an evangelistic campaign referring to the concept as being 'full surrender', or 'a clean heart', or 'victory over sin', revival always beginning with the obedience of individuals, rather than the excuses for sin so often given. http://www.jedwinorr.com/must_first.htm
Orr goes onto point out the importance of a destructive ministry towards revival too.
See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.
Quoting the above scripture Orr goes onto show the importance of pulling down and destroying that which has infiltrated into the Church to enable the purity of God to spring forth. This is something God has enabled our ministry to do, Orr accepting too that there are other kinds of ministry but within the context of revival, Orr shows in this verse from Jeremiah that four of the injunctions are destructive whilst the latter two are constructive, the destructive elements coming first.
Edwin Orr: And if we are to plant a garden for the Lord, a place of delight abounding in roses of holiness and love, hedge about by faith in the promises of God, bordered with sweet praise . . . Or if we are to build a palace for our King, a house of living stones, a place of service and adoration . . . Let us remember the first work of rooting out the weeds and utterly destroying them. Let us appreciate the value of slum-clearance.
One of the great weaknesses of many forms of ministry today, especially Convention ministry, is the attempt to sow good seed among thorns. The thorns generally continue springing up, and the seed is choked thereby, despite the good intention of the human sower. Seed sown in a prepared ground requires only the action of the elements to produce fruit in season. Seed sown by the wayside, or in stony places, or among thorns, will have its prospects of life severely threatened almost immediately. Likewise, changing the mode of illustration, a Christian who is in proper relationship with God is generally hungry for the great truths and affirmations of the Gospel.
The Great Message ….
In his final message given on April 21 1987 Orr declared that “revival was like judgment day”! These words he referred to having been given through W.W. Castle during a revival in China.
Orr points out that some see revival as an overflow, a time for hooting &hollering but real revival Orr points out is a time when God exposes all the sins of the Church. We will be identifying this crucial point in the “new revivals” of the last ten years.
After prayer Orr develops comes conviction of sin, blessing following judgment, Orr referring to Campbell Morgan who pointed out that the Welsh Revival was merited by confession, some very costly.
“Every great revival is marked by judgment” declared Orr. “First in the House of the Lord.” He dismissed the misuse of the scripture “Judge Not” saying that the context of this is a prohibition of hypocrisy rather than judgment itself, Paul judging matters in the Corinthian Church.
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornications is not so much as named among the Gentiles,that one should have his father's wife.
And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Orr identifies that Paul had written a previous epistle to Corinth relating the passage to contemporary days in which he had found a greed for money in Church circles, sponsors putting up with anything to draw a crowd!
In Corinth it is clear that there had been little discipline and judgment, even an allowance for incest, Paul expanding his judgment in the second (third) epistle.
II Cor. 2: 5 But if any have caused grief, he hath not grieved me, but in part: that I may not overcharge you all.
6 Sufficient to such a man is this punishment, which was inflicted of many.
7 So that contrariwise ye ought rather to forgive him, and comfort him, lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up with over much sorrow.
8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm your love toward him.
9 For to this end also did I write, that I might know the proof of you, whether ye be obedient in all things.
10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I forgive also: for if I forgave any thing, to whom I forgave it, for your sakes forgave I it in the person of Christ;
11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
In amongst all of these conditions there has to be a cry for repentance, and here we have Orr emphasising a concept far deeper than the “Alpha” Course “sorry”; repentance meaning “to change your attitude”, verse 8 of the above scripture demanding we reaffirm our love.
The importance of accountability, of keeping funds for the Gospel is well and truly affirmed by Orr in this awesome message that is a challenge today for the Church to come out of its cosiness and come back to its first love – the Lord Jesus. http://www.jedwinorr.com/index.html
Psalm 139: 1 O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou under standest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.
19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.